[Morlandus]

Ok, so, a while back Will Hindmarch decided to introduce an idea to White Wolf for a new game. A little while later, a 4th game was preached. Will is the developer for Vampire. So, unless he's snorting lines off his keyboard(s), wouldn't it make since that Will would actually develop his own baby? Or, would he be mentoring someone else in that development, even though he's a 'new' developer at White Wolf himself? Wouldn't that lead to premature burnout? Does he get paid with African diamonds or ...?


Thoughts?

[agasha kumiko]

I really hope not because he seems to have a nice vision for VtR and yes he better get really big diamonds. He wants to to and is working on as far as I have heard a different version of PG/ST Guides and instead of city books he is going for regional guides. So take that as you will for a direction of the new gamelines.

[Morlandus]

I really hope not because he seems to have a nice vision for VtR and yes he better get really big diamonds.  He wants to to and is working on as far as I have heard a different version of PG/ST Guides and instead of city books he is going for regional guides.  So take that as you will for a direction of the new gamelines.

I know Will is working on other books at the moment, and I'm not denying that. I want to discuss the development of the new game and Will's potential part with that.

[serial_experiments]

I think anyone can pitch a game idea and help develop it.
I remember one developer mentioning that when they developed the new World of Darkness's supernaturals, they worked VERY close with each other in order to ensure that all the games were more compatible.

I think Will pitching a game idea is no different from that: Creating an idea that someone else could develop.

And if the other WoD lines are going to be limited runs, even better.

[BlackHat_Matt]

From what I've heard, the 4th game represents something of a departure from the usual method of writing/developing, at least as far as the core book goes. I doubt, though, that the difference will be readily obvious except to those of us who have a kind of insider view.

Now, as to getting privilege to develop one's own ideas if you're a developer...well, you're certainly in a better position to have your ideas reviewed, but you've hardly got carte blanche.

[Azrael The 7th Murderer]

Yeah, just ask Mike Lee, he made that abundantly clear in the interview he gave us for the Month of the Fallen.

[monsada]

Thanks for the link, Az, I missed it

[Morlandus]

From what I've heard, the 4th game represents something of a departure from the usual method of writing/developing, at least as far as the core book goes. I doubt, though, that the difference will be readily obvious except to those of us who have a kind of insider view.

Now, as to getting privilege to develop one's own ideas if you're a developer...well, you're certainly in a better position to have your ideas reviewed, but you've hardly got carte blanche.

I can imagine it does. The major three games have set the structure of the WOD; anything that comes after them will have to conform to that structure in some way if White Wolf wants to continue with the crossover capabilities of the WOD in the future.

I think us normal folks will be able to tell some major differences, from the style of writing if nothing else.

As for carte blanche, I figured that one. I was just poking into the darkness to see if something poked back about the development of the new game.

[WWWill]

While it's true that I wrote a proposal for a World of Darkness game that's pretty much been absorbed (to whatever extent) into Promethean, the current shape of this fourth game doesn't much resemble my original pitch. I wrote my original pitch after being hired but before moving down to Atlanta as kind of my "dream game" for the World of Darkness (though I'd gladly take over Wraith, were it available).

That we ended up going with a "Frankenstein's monsters" game for Number Four is not due directly to my pitch. The only real credit due to my pitch, I think, is that it helped us to answer a lot of questions early on by saying "we like that" or "we hate that," shutting some doors early on that might've plagued us later if we'd chosen to keep considering them.

Promethean is, in its current form, a game benefitting from the input of several developers and other creative types at the office. But Bill Bridges (of Mage) is the mad scientist in charge now. Our input just provides him with raw material with which he can build The Creature (if you will).

The game is in great hands, with Bill at the helm. I'm still pestering him all the time, trying to sneak in and season every dish, but this game's going to be good because Bill Bridges knows how to make good games.

In the meantime, the rest of us are all chipping in to take up some slack on Mage for Bill. I'm developing Tome of the Watchtowers, for example.

There you go.

Cheers,
Will
WWGS

[agasha kumiko]

Ouch, Frankenstien monsters and I did wonder why you were doing mage stuff months ago...I have my answer and I am satisfied, whatever is coming down the pike can be intregrated into the bigger lines. I just wonder how playable it can be? I guess you guys have answered that question so I will do a wait and see for now.

[Morlandus]

I figured as much. It would take someone who's rather intimate with the ole' mages to make the focus of such a game be different enough and thematically appropriate so as to not be a breakaway from Mage. Otherwise, we'd just end up with just what some crackhead mage hell bent on ...well life or death would do.

Cool beans. Cheers for the info Will.

[serial_experiments]

Great news! Thanks Will!

[jahred]

Thanks Will for that Info.