[sandchigger]

And the females come from...? And their gestation period and growth period is what? Like a week?

[Spikey]

And the females come from...?  And their gestation period and growth period is what?  Like a week?

Well the females came from the same place, they were hibernating. The few who survived long enough from the last waking period not to be eaten, IE the biggest toufghest ones, went to ground and slept until he was awoken again. Like them Frogs in Africa, he was the catalyst for the breeding cycle to begin again after the drought.

Growth period and gestation it says were incredibly rapid, thats what took them by surprise. But it has been many years in the movie.

Biology used to have a problem with Dinosaurs because if they matured at the same rate as modern reptiles they wouldn't concievable be able to prpsper. thats why the new theory of warm bloded dinosaurs who matured quickly is now gaining so much support.

If, for the sake of the story, a species is to believed that hibernates for millions of years, and creates fire so it can burn vegetable and flesh to ash and then eat the ash, I don't really have any problems with them reaching maturity in less then ten years personally.

Besides, if you take it as a Changeling movie, the desolation is only Chimerical and the Dragons are Bygones.

[sandchigger]

I'm just saying, the plotholes are there, and I can drive my beetle through 'em.

[Spikey]

I'm just saying, the plotholes are there, and I can drive my beetle through 'em.

Well usually I'd agree, but haven't I just shown that they are not there?

I mean maybe it helps to have watched it several times like I have, but the explanaitions are there. For all its faults plot holes is not one I would ever lay at its feet.

[Hyacinth]

More Eshu in Movies/Books/Other ---

Mr. Nancy from "American Gods" by Neil Gaiman

Longshot from "The X-Men" (comics)

Zatoichi from the "Legend of Zatoichi" film series (portrayed by Shintaro Katsu)

Roux from "Chocolat" (portrayed by Johnny Depp)

Jack Starks from "The Jacket" (portrayed by Adrian Brody)


There are several characters from the movie "Angel Heart" that I think make great Eshu, too (or maybe they'd be better Satyrs; I guess it's a matter of opinion. )

Harry Angel (portrayed by Mickey Rourke)

Epiphany Proudfoot (portrayed by Lisa Bonnet)

Toots Sweet (portrayed by Brownie McGhee)

[sandchigger]

You finally saw The Jacket, eh? Like it?

Also, I don't know that Anansi would really be an Eshu. His kid is, though.

[Annael]

How about Zorro?

[Hyacinth]

REALLY liked "The Jacket". I don't see why he couldn't be an Eshu, judging by how he was portrayed in the book... but, I guess o each his own with interpretations.

[Hyacinth]

*slaps forehead* Why didn't I think of that one, Annael? He's perfect.

[sandchigger]

If Zorro is an Eshu, wouldn't Batman be, too?

[Hyacinth]

Not really; at least, I wouldn't think so. Zoro's got the whole "aura of dashing rogue" thing going for him; I see Batman as more of a really scary Troll.

[Tabhan]

Depends how much weight you put on the "dashing adventurer" side of eshu, and how important you think the "far-travelled tricksy storyteller" aspect is.

After all... surely "dashing adventurer" is a hugely common stereotype for most RPing characters? It's gotta be the far-travelled tricksy storyteller aspect that makes the eshu, yeah?

[Hyacinth]

Hmmm... how about Valentine from "MirrorMask"?

[Spikey]

Noooooooo Batman is a Redcap I tell ya!! a REDCAP.

Now Robin (Dick Grayson) I could see as an Eshu. Ex circus family and all that, sidekick and storyteller to the real man.

[sandchigger]

I thought Robin would be a pooka, myself. But yeah, I guess I can see that. And Batman does have the whole 'doesn't play well with others' thing going on doesn't he?

[Spikey]

I thought Robin would be a pooka, myself.  But yeah, I guess I can see that.  And Batman does have the whole 'doesn't play well with others' thing going on doesn't he?

Its all about the fear baby! I will fight monsters by just being so gosh darned more freaking frightening than they are! And I'll do it my way no matter what those pathetic well heeled law makers and crafters of society say about it!

Robin as Pooka? I'm down with that!

[zenten]

The Doctor comes across as a very technically adept Eshu to me. Either that or a very well travelled adventuring Nocker. He's got the qualities of both kiths honestly, and a bit of Sidhe in him to boot.

[Kitin]

Lemony Snicket
Sissy Hankshaw Even Cowgirls Get The Blues
Count D Pet Shop of Horrors (I thought so more for the manga than the animation)
Pippi Longstocking
Jamal Malik Slumdog Millionaire
Luke Cool Hand Luke
Eisenheim The Illusionist

ETA: maybe Evira: Mistress of the Dark, but I'm thinking she's more of a Pooka.

This post has been edited by Kitin: 03 May 2010 - 06:12 PM

[Igorina]

Ooh I second the Doctor and Sissy Hankshaw. I'm not clear if Anasi the Spider would be an Eshu- sure he was all about stories but he was a prototypical Phooka to my mind.

Also "And I alone lived to tell the tale" is the most Eshu statement ever.

[Lyrax]

I heartily agree with most of these statements.
But I assert that Batman is a Scathach sluagh.
Think about it!
What's his brand of fear? Does he bully the bad guys? Does he scare them with raw viscera until they puke? Or is it more subtle? Isn't it more... like how a sluagh scares people into being good? But these people aren't children. And they won't be good.
And the most recent Batman always has that hoarse whisper when he gets into the suit! Because he called upon the Wyrd!
All right, that's enough of that.

Doctor Who - Yeah.
Dude from Mirrormask? Definitely.
Also - Ishmael, from Moby Dick. Maybe.

This post has been edited by Lyrax: 04 May 2010 - 01:20 AM