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ST wont stick with a damned game. sorry not sure where this goes.
#1
Posted 03 October 2008 - 06:42 AM
Excuse my bitching please ><
So our ST also my husband, has been running one and one games with me to better help me tune my roleplaying skills and learn a bunch of things..plus its fun.
well even before this he had this not so little problem.
Sticking with his games. See like recently he pushed me to play Aeon, I was enjoying it and having fun untill 3-4 sessions later in the meat of the game so to speak he says to me. "I want to play vampire...Could we pause Aeon for a while and play vampire for a bit. We'll come back to Aeon in a little bit."
*Twitches* I know what this means though. It ALWAYS means death for the previous game, I put so much effort into playing a game I didnt even want to play at first that I throughly enjoyed once I got a hang of it... If I could I'd take a picture of the large amount of character sheets from games he said 'we'd come back to in a little while.'
Now we're playing vampire, and I have to say its one of my best ever..my ST has been teaching me how to better get into and stay into character. And explained to me that if I wanted to play a malkavian, they arnt all batshit crazy, and helped me model one based on my own lovely 'derangement'
I'm just pissed cause that Aeon game was getting good, and now vampires going good and if we go back to aeon vampire ends assuming I can even pull myself back into aeon..I cant usually 'multigame' cant keep track of what character is what half the time. So In turn BOTH games end.
Anyone have this problem or know how to solve it?
I guess it may have to do with up untill recently I didnt really push the plot I went along with things, didnt step outside the box so to speak. But with Aeon and Vampire I've pretty much taken control, and my hubby is beyond happy with how well i'm improving and understanding and staying in character.
He just keeps reading about role-playing games outside of what we are playing and on a whim wants to play that.
Like now he's looking at warhammer the role-playing game..*cringes* I told him no way in hell would I ever play that.
But can you see where i'm going?
So our ST also my husband, has been running one and one games with me to better help me tune my roleplaying skills and learn a bunch of things..plus its fun.
well even before this he had this not so little problem.
Sticking with his games. See like recently he pushed me to play Aeon, I was enjoying it and having fun untill 3-4 sessions later in the meat of the game so to speak he says to me. "I want to play vampire...Could we pause Aeon for a while and play vampire for a bit. We'll come back to Aeon in a little bit."
*Twitches* I know what this means though. It ALWAYS means death for the previous game, I put so much effort into playing a game I didnt even want to play at first that I throughly enjoyed once I got a hang of it... If I could I'd take a picture of the large amount of character sheets from games he said 'we'd come back to in a little while.'
Now we're playing vampire, and I have to say its one of my best ever..my ST has been teaching me how to better get into and stay into character. And explained to me that if I wanted to play a malkavian, they arnt all batshit crazy, and helped me model one based on my own lovely 'derangement'
I'm just pissed cause that Aeon game was getting good, and now vampires going good and if we go back to aeon vampire ends assuming I can even pull myself back into aeon..I cant usually 'multigame' cant keep track of what character is what half the time. So In turn BOTH games end.
Anyone have this problem or know how to solve it?
I guess it may have to do with up untill recently I didnt really push the plot I went along with things, didnt step outside the box so to speak. But with Aeon and Vampire I've pretty much taken control, and my hubby is beyond happy with how well i'm improving and understanding and staying in character.
He just keeps reading about role-playing games outside of what we are playing and on a whim wants to play that.
Like now he's looking at warhammer the role-playing game..*cringes* I told him no way in hell would I ever play that.
But can you see where i'm going?
"As Michael says, the Ravnos Antediluvian, the only one anybody has seen for several thousand years, destroyed a small country. Imagine what twelve more could do. Even if they hate each other. *Especially* if they hate each other." - Random Avenger
#2
Posted 03 October 2008 - 06:56 AM
I can sympathise somewhat with your ST, I too occasionally get urges to run completely different games. I fight this by smacking myself in the face with my Changeling book (Changeling being the current game I'm running) before game night. Get my imagination in the right place for the game I actually have started.
As it is, I'd try and stick with the good game you are running for a while. Sure, Aeon was good, but as you said, it could be hard to get properly back into it, and if Vampire is good, then hooray for you, you're actually playing a good game already! Perhaps smack your ST in the face with the Vampire book before each gametime to keep him on track.
As it is, I'd try and stick with the good game you are running for a while. Sure, Aeon was good, but as you said, it could be hard to get properly back into it, and if Vampire is good, then hooray for you, you're actually playing a good game already! Perhaps smack your ST in the face with the Vampire book before each gametime to keep him on track.
#3
Posted 03 October 2008 - 07:17 AM
You shouldn't be talking to us, you should be talking to your husband.
"I want to finish one campaign before starting another one" is an entirely reasonable request especially when backed up with the arguments you have made in your post.
As for your husband always wanting to run another game and how that can be "healed"... hard to say from here. Many storytellers are not vocal enough about what they want to play right now and let the players decide for example. That can lead to dissatisfaction with the current game.
Others have problems keeping the plot coherent and want frequent restarts.
Others have just so many games they want to try or quickly lose interest in everything.
None of this is an excuse however for not finishing the game you are currently playing.
"I want to finish one campaign before starting another one" is an entirely reasonable request especially when backed up with the arguments you have made in your post.
As for your husband always wanting to run another game and how that can be "healed"... hard to say from here. Many storytellers are not vocal enough about what they want to play right now and let the players decide for example. That can lead to dissatisfaction with the current game.
Others have problems keeping the plot coherent and want frequent restarts.
Others have just so many games they want to try or quickly lose interest in everything.
None of this is an excuse however for not finishing the game you are currently playing.
#4
Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:10 PM
I switch games a lot too.
We have played four or five sessions of D&D 4E because I wanted to try it out and I'm already going to talk to them this Saturday about switching back to nWoD. Before D&D we trying to play Requiem for Rome, which last through character building and 2 sessions. Before that we played Shadowrun 4th for at least 6 sessions (but I think more).
For me, it's all based upon my players. I stop enjoying a game whenever they stop being interesting. If they just show up, sit down, roll dice, and mechanically play the game... then I get disappointed and bored. That's what is happening with D&D right now. I came up with an environment that I like but if they are going to ignore me showing it to them in favor of wading through to the next chance to stomp on a goblin and loot its stuff... then I'm not having any fun.
Shadowrun came to an end because I know my players and I started to see where they were going. Familiar characters growing in familiar ways makes me groan. Sure, there were different details... but it was the same character whether he was a Paladin of Bahamut or a Cyber-Knight or a Street Samurai or a Bretonnian Knight Errant or anything else. Some of them decide to ignore their character in any reasonable way and instead focus on manipulating the mechanics of the game to reach ridiculous ends. Yay, you're a one-trick pony who can hose the majority of what I send against you and what you can't hose would require me to sent a specialized hitman after you AND you can count on your companions to overcome THAT.
The Requiem for Rome game died a swift death because I insisted that the group make characters that had reasons to work together rather than splitting off to each do their own individual thing all the time... and then they didn't listen. First session, they each went off to do their own things without regard for what was going on around them or my request. So I nipped it in the bud.
I know it sucks and annoys some of my players, but I put effort into my games and I hate to "waste them" on lacklustre play. And, as Nopp said, there's also the "Ooooh! Shiny!!" factor of having a neat idea that you want to develop but which doesn't fit into your current game. The ST/GM needs to be as entertained as everyone else... moreso, imo, since they typically have to put in a good deal of work to keep things running.
We have played four or five sessions of D&D 4E because I wanted to try it out and I'm already going to talk to them this Saturday about switching back to nWoD. Before D&D we trying to play Requiem for Rome, which last through character building and 2 sessions. Before that we played Shadowrun 4th for at least 6 sessions (but I think more).
For me, it's all based upon my players. I stop enjoying a game whenever they stop being interesting. If they just show up, sit down, roll dice, and mechanically play the game... then I get disappointed and bored. That's what is happening with D&D right now. I came up with an environment that I like but if they are going to ignore me showing it to them in favor of wading through to the next chance to stomp on a goblin and loot its stuff... then I'm not having any fun.
Shadowrun came to an end because I know my players and I started to see where they were going. Familiar characters growing in familiar ways makes me groan. Sure, there were different details... but it was the same character whether he was a Paladin of Bahamut or a Cyber-Knight or a Street Samurai or a Bretonnian Knight Errant or anything else. Some of them decide to ignore their character in any reasonable way and instead focus on manipulating the mechanics of the game to reach ridiculous ends. Yay, you're a one-trick pony who can hose the majority of what I send against you and what you can't hose would require me to sent a specialized hitman after you AND you can count on your companions to overcome THAT.
The Requiem for Rome game died a swift death because I insisted that the group make characters that had reasons to work together rather than splitting off to each do their own individual thing all the time... and then they didn't listen. First session, they each went off to do their own things without regard for what was going on around them or my request. So I nipped it in the bud.
I know it sucks and annoys some of my players, but I put effort into my games and I hate to "waste them" on lacklustre play. And, as Nopp said, there's also the "Ooooh! Shiny!!" factor of having a neat idea that you want to develop but which doesn't fit into your current game. The ST/GM needs to be as entertained as everyone else... moreso, imo, since they typically have to put in a good deal of work to keep things running.
I want some of that new Emo grass. It'll cut itself...
#5
Posted 03 October 2008 - 10:22 PM
I have experienced this problem myself.
Not wanting to stick to a particular genre or setting.
It got worse when I met a fellow gamer and we started up a small 1-on-1 gaming group and for several years we jumped from game to game, sometimes on a monthly basis.
But he moved out of the COUNTRY and now I find that I have a terrible time sticking with one of anything:
Multiple books going at once.
Watching only "portions" of films and barely ever finishing one.
Taking 5 hours to watch an hour program (I LOVE the pause feature on my ReplayTV).
Swapping out DS games or jumping to another computer game.
Its real bad all the way around.
I have got to reclaim my ability to focus.
Not wanting to stick to a particular genre or setting.
It got worse when I met a fellow gamer and we started up a small 1-on-1 gaming group and for several years we jumped from game to game, sometimes on a monthly basis.
But he moved out of the COUNTRY and now I find that I have a terrible time sticking with one of anything:
Multiple books going at once.
Watching only "portions" of films and barely ever finishing one.
Taking 5 hours to watch an hour program (I LOVE the pause feature on my ReplayTV).
Swapping out DS games or jumping to another computer game.
Its real bad all the way around.
I have got to reclaim my ability to focus.
#7
Posted 04 October 2008 - 12:37 AM
Gamer ADD.
Theres a cure for this, and since the GM is both the only other participant in the game and your husband the remedy is very, very simple: Just say no.
If you want to get technical, try to wriggle out of him why he wants to switch. Maybe there are themes he wants to explore that could be explored in your current game. Maybe your character could fall through a portal to an alternate reality a bunch of times. Maybe you could play through a couple of sessions to wrap up your current game before you satisfy him by moving on. Maybe you could offer him a blowjob.
Or maybe you should look into smaller games that are easy to play through in three or four sessions; I'd be happy to suggest a few, I know some real fun ones that bring all kinds of awesome to the table.
All in all, there are few problems that can't be solved with either words, sex or violence, preferably in that order.
Theres a cure for this, and since the GM is both the only other participant in the game and your husband the remedy is very, very simple: Just say no.
If you want to get technical, try to wriggle out of him why he wants to switch. Maybe there are themes he wants to explore that could be explored in your current game. Maybe your character could fall through a portal to an alternate reality a bunch of times. Maybe you could play through a couple of sessions to wrap up your current game before you satisfy him by moving on. Maybe you could offer him a blowjob.
Or maybe you should look into smaller games that are easy to play through in three or four sessions; I'd be happy to suggest a few, I know some real fun ones that bring all kinds of awesome to the table.
All in all, there are few problems that can't be solved with either words, sex or violence, preferably in that order.
#8
Posted 04 October 2008 - 03:59 AM
I can sympathise somewhat with your ST, I too occasionally get urges to run completely different games. I fight this by smacking myself in the face with my Changeling book (Changeling being the current game I'm running) before game night. Get my imagination in the right place for the game I actually have started.
As it is, I'd try and stick with the good game you are running for a while. Sure, Aeon was good, but as you said, it could be hard to get properly back into it, and if Vampire is good, then hooray for you, you're actually playing a good game already! Perhaps smack your ST in the face with the Vampire book before each gametime to keep him on track.
As it is, I'd try and stick with the good game you are running for a while. Sure, Aeon was good, but as you said, it could be hard to get properly back into it, and if Vampire is good, then hooray for you, you're actually playing a good game already! Perhaps smack your ST in the face with the Vampire book before each gametime to keep him on track.
ah you always have the most amusing things to say Nopp...but damn good idea. He started talking about warhammer and I threatened to lock all of his roleplaying books up EXECPT for what we were currently playing. He shut up quick..
ANd you are right, this game is going amazingly well, for now i'll be glad with it. If I cant get back into Aeon then well I've at least got a good vampire game
You shouldn't be talking to us, you should be talking to your husband.
"I want to finish one campaign before starting another one" is an entirely reasonable request especially when backed up with the arguments you have made in your post.
As for your husband always wanting to run another game and how that can be "healed"... hard to say from here. Many storytellers are not vocal enough about what they want to play right now and let the players decide for example. That can lead to dissatisfaction with the current game.
Others have problems keeping the plot coherent and want frequent restarts.
Others have just so many games they want to try or quickly lose interest in everything.
None of this is an excuse however for not finishing the game you are currently playing.
"I want to finish one campaign before starting another one" is an entirely reasonable request especially when backed up with the arguments you have made in your post.
As for your husband always wanting to run another game and how that can be "healed"... hard to say from here. Many storytellers are not vocal enough about what they want to play right now and let the players decide for example. That can lead to dissatisfaction with the current game.
Others have problems keeping the plot coherent and want frequent restarts.
Others have just so many games they want to try or quickly lose interest in everything.
None of this is an excuse however for not finishing the game you are currently playing.
I did talk to him before I even posted this o0 I just wanted to see about fixing him haha.
Well he usually asks me what I want to play. We've been forced to fall into 1 on 1 games due to our group falling out for reasons I dont really know...Course he's the one the forced me into Aeon when I was against sci-fi and powers..But I gave it shot cause he realllly wanted to play it.
Well his main reason to me was that he made a decision during the course of the game that made the game less interesting to him, and that it happens alot with games something will happen that he decided to have happen and it ruins the game for him.
And yep, he's also got the many games he wants to try thing..He's played all of his games with other people before but he says he likes my style of roleplaying and wants to see how I work with other games.
Gamer ADD.
Theres a cure for this, and since the GM is both the only other participant in the game and your husband the remedy is very, very simple: Just say no.
If you want to get technical, try to wriggle out of him why he wants to switch. Maybe there are themes he wants to explore that could be explored in your current game. Maybe your character could fall through a portal to an alternate reality a bunch of times. Maybe you could play through a couple of sessions to wrap up your current game before you satisfy him by moving on. Maybe you could offer him a blowjob.
Or maybe you should look into smaller games that are easy to play through in three or four sessions; I'd be happy to suggest a few, I know some real fun ones that bring all kinds of awesome to the table.
All in all, there are few problems that can't be solved with either words, sex or violence, preferably in that order.
Theres a cure for this, and since the GM is both the only other participant in the game and your husband the remedy is very, very simple: Just say no.
If you want to get technical, try to wriggle out of him why he wants to switch. Maybe there are themes he wants to explore that could be explored in your current game. Maybe your character could fall through a portal to an alternate reality a bunch of times. Maybe you could play through a couple of sessions to wrap up your current game before you satisfy him by moving on. Maybe you could offer him a blowjob.
Or maybe you should look into smaller games that are easy to play through in three or four sessions; I'd be happy to suggest a few, I know some real fun ones that bring all kinds of awesome to the table.
All in all, there are few problems that can't be solved with either words, sex or violence, preferably in that order.
I cant say no to him he has these puppy dog eyes. haha. but yeah, I guess up untill recently he'd want to switch because I didnt force the plot, and he was tired of my brief barely in character responses.
Well I have told him time and time again if he doesnt like where its going we can 'reload from a savepoint' so to speak, I'm never against it, given sometimes the descions he make impact me in someway later on.
By all means suggest away, I enjoy trying new games just so long as the previous ones are done. We ran a one shot ghost story game that was just amazing, one session thats all. and it was one character I didnt mind wouldnt see daylight again cause it was just a good one time game.
Thats so true...but so out of order..Guess I just do thing differently then everyone else
"As Michael says, the Ravnos Antediluvian, the only one anybody has seen for several thousand years, destroyed a small country. Imagine what twelve more could do. Even if they hate each other. *Especially* if they hate each other." - Random Avenger
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