Out of curiosity, what are the differences between these (and other) forms of 'magic' available to kindred? What keeps an Assamite vizier from teaching his spells to a tremere, or a Giovani from trading rituals with a Vizier (other than deep rooted paranoia and hate)?
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Differences in Blood sorcery Thaumaturgy, Assamite, Necromancy
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Posted 25 February 2005 - 07:02 PM
Well, it all comes down to flavour I guess.
Plus, they're all very different forms of Blood Magic. The socery of the Tzimisce Voivodes is as ancient as the Clan itself, and revolves aorund their connection to the spirit of the land to which theyre bonded.
Assamite Blood Sorcery is a way of drawing on the power of their Blood, just like Tremere thaumaturgy, but it is an ancient art, perfected through milennia of training and study. Even Quietus is in effect Blood Magic, but it is so ancient and ingrained in the Kindred who practice it that no one thinks of it as such anymore. The Blood Sorcery of the Assamite Viziers focuses on the natural properties of Vampiric Vitae.
Tremere Thaumaturgy is a way of cheating vampirism. When Tremer and his followers discovered that they could no longer perform their Ars Essentiae, they experimented with their newfound powers of the Blood instead, trying to discern if the Quintessence flowing through their veins could be used to power magical workings.
It could.
Their Hermetic training and systematic way of thinking allowed the,m to very quickly codiify and systemize their new powers, and Thaumaturgy was born.
Thaumaturgy is a substitute for the Hermetic Ars, Hermetic Magic powered by Vitae.
The Giovanni started out as a family of Awakened wizards, hedge magicians and ghouls to the Cappadocians. They practiced Necromancy, communion with the dead, and for that the Cappadocians found them valuable enough to support them. Cappadocians themselves studied only death, and found the Necromantic arts of the Giovanni family mildly distasteful, but ultimately a useful source of information.
When the Giovanni usurped and killed their Cappadocian fathers, they too, like the Tremere, were forced to find a way of powering their now lost necromantic abilities with Vampiric Vitae. But they had an advantage the Tremere lacked: The Cappadocian Clan had been Embracing Giovanni for centuries already, and they had slowly but surely learned how to practice their Necromancy in this new, undead state.
Necromancy is a conversion of mortal magics, like Thaumaturgy, but it is built not on rigorous training and Excercise like the Hermetic magic. Rather, it is a collection of hodge-podge methods and folk-remedies, learnt and kept alive by the Giovanni family for centuries pior to their induction into and eventual usurpation of Clan Cappadocian.
Just my take on the problem...
Plus, they're all very different forms of Blood Magic. The socery of the Tzimisce Voivodes is as ancient as the Clan itself, and revolves aorund their connection to the spirit of the land to which theyre bonded.
Assamite Blood Sorcery is a way of drawing on the power of their Blood, just like Tremere thaumaturgy, but it is an ancient art, perfected through milennia of training and study. Even Quietus is in effect Blood Magic, but it is so ancient and ingrained in the Kindred who practice it that no one thinks of it as such anymore. The Blood Sorcery of the Assamite Viziers focuses on the natural properties of Vampiric Vitae.
Tremere Thaumaturgy is a way of cheating vampirism. When Tremer and his followers discovered that they could no longer perform their Ars Essentiae, they experimented with their newfound powers of the Blood instead, trying to discern if the Quintessence flowing through their veins could be used to power magical workings.
It could.
Their Hermetic training and systematic way of thinking allowed the,m to very quickly codiify and systemize their new powers, and Thaumaturgy was born.
Thaumaturgy is a substitute for the Hermetic Ars, Hermetic Magic powered by Vitae.
The Giovanni started out as a family of Awakened wizards, hedge magicians and ghouls to the Cappadocians. They practiced Necromancy, communion with the dead, and for that the Cappadocians found them valuable enough to support them. Cappadocians themselves studied only death, and found the Necromantic arts of the Giovanni family mildly distasteful, but ultimately a useful source of information.
When the Giovanni usurped and killed their Cappadocian fathers, they too, like the Tremere, were forced to find a way of powering their now lost necromantic abilities with Vampiric Vitae. But they had an advantage the Tremere lacked: The Cappadocian Clan had been Embracing Giovanni for centuries already, and they had slowly but surely learned how to practice their Necromancy in this new, undead state.
Necromancy is a conversion of mortal magics, like Thaumaturgy, but it is built not on rigorous training and Excercise like the Hermetic magic. Rather, it is a collection of hodge-podge methods and folk-remedies, learnt and kept alive by the Giovanni family for centuries pior to their induction into and eventual usurpation of Clan Cappadocian.
Just my take on the problem...
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