[zenten]

Ok, I was reading up on requiem, specificaly awe, since I'll be playing a character in a larp who has that. And I realized that it would make sense for a character who wanted the cities vampire population to have a good impression of him to be using awe quite frequently in the middle of game, at the very least every time he meets someone new, or for that matter whenever he's encounting someone of some importance to him at the begining of game.

However, this seems like it would get anoying out of game, as well as possibly offending players.

What do you think about this?

[Macbeth]

I recommend employing this power judiciously and infrequently, and only when doing so is important strategically to your character's goals. Of course this would be my response regardless of the power in question, because it's been my experience that frequent uses of any power eventually annoys players (even if their characters don't or shouldn't know what's really happening: welcome to human nature).

Can the exact number of times you can use Awe without annoying the other players be quantified? I doubt it. Too much depends on fluid factors that you can't control, such as the mood of the players and their characters on a given game night, whether or not the Kindred in charge are likely to be vindictive about being subjected to Awe frequently, and whether or not other characters realize what you're doing. It might be"safe" to use Awe only once on a given game night, but three or more times on another.

Let us know how successful your attempts are! Those of us not currently playing in a MET game must larp vicariously through those of you who are.

~Macbeth

[Dolston]

Read the essay in the Player's Guide from V:tM. It will make things clear.

[Macbeth]

Which essay are you referring to, Dolston? I can't recall the one you're thinking of off the top of my head. And do you believe it applies equally to VtR as well as VtM?

Thanks!

[DGG]

There is a fine line between “using a discipline” and “forcing the situation in your favour”.

In that respect, I have seen players at LARPs use their disciplines, not because it was in their character to do so, but because it was an opportunity to “win” at the situation. I don’t know what it is. Maybe they got benched one too many times in little league soccer and never scored? I dunno.

I always tell my players to go back to their character. Re-read the background. Once you get into the mindset of the character, you can figure out his motives and THEN you can decide whether using disciplines is in the best interest of the character. I don’t think any player would fault you for using a discipline as long as it is done in character.

I think this way when it comes to PC clash of wills too. (IE Is this conflict REALLY worth my effort?)

[zenten]

I always tell my players to go back to their character. Re-read the background. Once you get into the mindset of the character, you can figure out his motives and THEN you can decide whether using disciplines is in the best interest of the character. I don’t think any player would fault you for using a discipline as long as it is done in character.

See, this is the problem, as using it all the time is perfectly in character for the character I have in mind.

Read the essay in the Player's Guide from V:tM. It will make things clear.

I don't have the players guide.

[DGG]

Well, on the flip side, I have seen LARPers who, for lack of better words, are not two-fisted chumps and really have a good natural stage presence. They don’t really need to activate any Majesty because people pay attention to them anyways.

[zenten]

I'm trying to pull that off.

Still, there's no way to pull of the supernatural presence that Majesty would give you.

[DGG]

I'm trying to pull that off.

Still, there's no way to pull of the supernatural presence that Majesty would give you.

I think that is a good direction to go for IMO

Good way:

“Ladies and Gentlemen! May I have your attention for a moment? It has come to my attention that not all of you have drinks. For those of you who don’t know I have some ghouls who have drunk a full bottle of my finest vintage Bordeaux in the chambers upstairs. For those of you who prefer the taste of something stronger, may I humbly direct you to my cellar. I am sure at least one of my blood dolls chained there can quench even the most discerning palate.”

Bad way:

“I got awe on! Hey! I said I got awe on! You gotta shut up and pay attention to me now!”

[zenten]

Dude, I'm not using those lines

What I really want is just some indication that I'm more compelling that I'm acting.

[DGG]

Dude, I'm not using those lines

Oh come on! I just gave you gold there!

What I really want is just some indication that I'm more compelling that I'm acting.

Okay, what are you playing exactly? Ventrue businessman? Toreador fashion mogul? Setite priest? What?

[zenten]

Daeva Carthian, with delusions of grandure and a habbit of mooching his way through life, usualy through sex.

[zenten]

Would just restricting it to when I first meet someone, when I really need to impress someone, and things in downtime scenes be appropriate instead?

[DGG]

Would just restricting it to when I first meet someone, when I really need to impress someone, and things in downtime scenes be appropriate instead?

That depends if touching is or isn't allowed in your LARP

[Macbeth]

Would just restricting it to when I first meet someone, when I really need to impress someone, and things in downtime scenes be appropriate instead?

This seems more reasonable to me than employing the power on everyone your character meets -- because if you do that, I'll give you short odds that other characters will "somehow" discover that you're doing it and either take steps to make you rue it, or avoid you and warn others to do likewise, and that would be undesirable.

Have you considered your character's reaction if and when he earns a reputation as an "undue influencer?"

~Macbeth

[zenten]

I would only be an undue influencer if I was using the fact that everyone likes me too often.

But yeah, I really do have to keep people's OOC biases in mind when doing this sort of thing.

[Macbeth]

zenten, when will you be playing your new character? I'm very curious to hear your thoughts on how the use of Awe influenced (or didn't influence) your character's reception.

~Macbeth

[zenten]

I'm not sure when the game is starting.

Probably not till sometime in the summer.

[Valentine]

A bit late to join the chat here *G* But here it goes. Though I don't know if the V:tR version of Awe is doing more or less the same as the V:tM version of Awe, I say using the same discipline over and over again is generally not a good thing. I recall a mentioning in one of the VtM publications that Vampires make a point of not using their disciplines, finding it more of a challenge to get things done the mundane way (Plenty of time!).

With that said, if using a certain discipline 'all the time' is something the character would do, i think its okay. There is a difference in using a single power all the time, and using the whole arsenal all the time! If anything, i feel its about the motivation for using something. Is it player motivated, or character motivated! (Watch out for those types who claim everything is character motivated though!).

And a fun application, that is, if the power in question is still the same, try using it once to draw attention in order to give somebody else a moment to for instance, steal something, wrestle free or simply steal the attention from a toreador type figure graving attention!

[zenten]

After reading through it again, it actualy wouldn't be quite as appropriate IC as I thought. Using it in a room full of vampires has you roll to see if *all* the vampires notice you, which might not be what my character would be going for at the time.